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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 21:42:39 GMT
I do believe she's on medicine, her demeanor gives that away which nothing is wrong with that, we truly don't know what her real issues were aside from ppd. Hayden may have other illnesses too, it's possible but I do find that she comes off as trying to convince everyone she's okay. It's her business though so I try to remember that. Of course it's true that in the showbusiness it's hard to be true to yourself and maybe she wants to convince the public and in this case also the producers and studios she's healthy again. Her job is at risk after all. the showbusiness has always been cruel when it comes to the problems of it's members from the time of Marilyn Monroe till nowadays. my only hope is that she personally knows her issues and can come back to her real self once she's completely done with her treatment and has settled a bit in her life.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 2:59:35 GMT
You can't blame her, really.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 23:28:30 GMT
I just want to say from the interviews it was clear she was still on medication, the way she needed time to realise the questions or how she slurred words a bit or when the interviewer asked her what she was exited for most on show, she said having time with Kaya. She didn't understand the question. I also realized that in previous interviews at wlads fight and the other gala. And i know a little bit about that since i have a good friend who was on such medication so I know how people talk then. It really changes your character. Sometimes it makes your feelings vry strong sometimes you have no feelings at all. I think it must be a bit confusing for her. She should try to get rid of this medication soon at least as soon as it's possible for her since doctors tend to give those medicatiosn longer then needed. I just hope she didn't get hooked up on those pills. Anyways we don't know what other depression she may have had apart of PPD and so maybe we really can't blame her and I don't do.
I just say that she isn't happy and herself yet even if she wants poeple to believe and that's why I'm worried even though I can't change it. I just hope nashville ends and she can really close this chapter and find her way back into her life. Ok this may take a whole year just with her family. But maybe she needs that now. But she's strong and I'm still very hopeful that once she has settled in her new life that her real self breaks through this persona she currently created, probably to protect herself. Meaning she'll find a way to be there for her family, while still being able to be an actress and do social stuff and care again for all these things even if she'll probably stay forever a little uptight compared to the past. This is the only important thing that she finds back to herself no matter if it takes long or short. Otherwise it would be very sad.
All I say here is bc I really like her actually and want her to be happy and not bc I started to hate and want to bash her.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 3:30:27 GMT
Don't worry, no one here thinks you're bashing her. We all want the best for her personally and professionally.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 9:24:33 GMT
Just for everybody´s knowledge, her slurring and not answering properly could be because of the depression itself and not the medication. Depression slows down our minds. Also not everyone on medication gets a changed personality, in many cases medication has saved lives and many have to use it to function normally. Sometimes it just isn´t enough with therapy and support from family and friends.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 15:07:55 GMT
Just for everybody´s knowledge, her slurring and not answering properly could be because of the depression itself and not the medication. Depression slows down our minds. Also not everyone on medication gets a changed personality, in many cases medication has saved lives and many have to use it to function normally. Sometimes it just isn´t enough with therapy and support from family and friends. I agree medication doesn't always change your personality but often. And her way of talking could be due to medication and/or depression that is also true. But generally you can overcome PPD with therapy and help from friends and family. And that's what was happening when she was in gemrany with wlad and her family. No her family is far away and wlad who should be with her is somewhere else (who knows where). And most of her friends just don't seem empathic enough. I remember kate york once said best medicine for depression is booze on her insta and hayden was very pissed at her in 2013. Probably also the reason why she stoped her friendship with her. Anyways further she has to play this depressing juliette storyline again. All this together is not good for her in my opinion and probably caused her depression to grow again after this december where she made good progress.
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Post by laffytaffy on Jan 20, 2016 18:11:29 GMT
Just for everybody´s knowledge, her slurring and not answering properly could be because of the depression itself and not the medication. Depression slows down our minds. Also not everyone on medication gets a changed personality, in many cases medication has saved lives and many have to use it to function normally. Sometimes it just isn´t enough with therapy and support from family and friends. Interesting because I have many people around me who take various depression related drugs and they don't have slurred speech however they do get confused but they also have a relaxed state of mind too, much like how I've noticed Hayden have several times now. She's been acting since she was a baby and I'm sure she's seen stuff between her parents and been attacked by public/media for many years so it all could've caught up to her once she had her child. I personally don't believe she only has PPD, I think she may have another illness as well but I'm not judging her. We're all humans that go through things in life.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 20:14:10 GMT
No we don't judge her for having other issues maybe. But that also makes me worrying bc it's sad
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 20:24:10 GMT
Other issues like that?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 20:34:25 GMT
Other depressions that came along with the PPD. Or a relapse. But she seems now more depressed/medicated than in december. She said this in one of her interviews: "The only important thing to me is that I'm not causing myself pain and discomfort anymore". Does this mean she has given up fighting her depression bc it's too painful and rather wants to believe a dream of being happy and fine already? I really hope not. Ok it's probably overanalyzing a single sentence. Still a bit strange. I hope it just means she wants to be more open which is a good thing (although she isn't really open since she still has problems and I don't see her yet as the strong mum she wants to be for her kid).
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Post by laffytaffy on Jan 20, 2016 23:40:34 GMT
There's all kinds of mental illnesses.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 18:57:40 GMT
According to this baby-website she said in some interview on the red carpet that she can't overcome her depression anymore and that her only goal is to not cause herself anymore pain. If this is true it would confirm our assumption that she isn't really fine just not causing herslef pain. And that would also explain why she probably still gets medication. blogs.babycenter.com/celebrities/hayden-panettiere-01252016there-is-no-overcoming-postpartum-depression/?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalyticsNevertheless this is very sad in my eyes. If she gave up fighting her deperession she might really never again be herself. I wish I could help her in some way bc neverending depression is bad. Sure with medication and not causing yourself stress and pain you can live with it, but it's still sad and affects her life in a way that she can't do any social stuff (which is stressful/painful in some way) of course at lkeast not now and she can't be really a funny and humurous person anymore like in the past. I remember actor jeremy brad (who played sherlock holmes), he had depression for a long time and had to take medication for many years it also affected his acting and his personal life. Gosh i don't even want to think bout what this could mean for Hayden. But I believe she could overcome it to some degree maybe, with more support from wlad and without having to play on Nashville. So we'll have to see how her future developes. She might still find a way. As I said before a year of break might really do her well. I don't blame her daughter for sure but somehow I really wish for her she would've never gotten a child.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 19:35:05 GMT
I think she want to say is with ppd you have to learn to live with that how a heart patient lives his whole live with medication and nothing is wrong with that. She is living with that and is very brave for that like other many people live with other kind of sickness , she is right when she says the most important thing for her is not causing pain anymore, in vertain way I understand her bc long time ago I went throught anxiety and for me the most important thing was to try not to think bad things like I'm going to die and so , I'm going to have a heart attack ... So in certain way I understand her it's a long process so we have to have patience. With regard to medication I think not always is bad if with that you will feel better I think you have many prejudices ( I don't want to bother you)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 19:41:22 GMT
I also think if she had to have ppd is bc it's in her genetics , it doesn't mind when she would had Kaya it's something that she had to suffer unfortunately . The good thing is that she wants to be a mother again probably she will be more controlled
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 20:08:10 GMT
I think she want to say is with ppd you have to learn to live with that how a heart patient lives his whole live with medication and nothing is wrong with that. She is living with that and is very brave for that like other many people live with other kind of sickness , she is right when she says the most important thing for her is not causing pain anymore, in vertain way I understand her bc long time ago I went throught anxiety and for me the most important thing was to try not to think bad things like I'm going to die and so , I'm going to have a heart attack ... So in certain way I understand her it's a long process so we have to have patience. With regard to medication I think not always is bad if with that you will feel better I think you have many prejudices ( I don't want to bother you) Actually SSRI's don't really make things better. I read quite a lot about it. They just block most of your feelings. Anyways she may need them in her situation but they aren't a life-long solution. Support from family/friends is important as well as we saw this december where she felt better than after her return to nashvile. I don't say I have no patience lol I said she might need time until 2017 maybe and one year break. I also didn't say it's wrong when she says she doesn't want to cause herself pain in her situation. Nevertheless you can overcome PPD. But she might have some other depression as well which of course makes it difficult to overcome it. I also said that she might overcome it in some way with support of wlad and without nashville. It's not sure of course but there's a chance.
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