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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 12:44:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:08:23 GMT
It's unfair bc she had been ill that is not indicate she will be always ill , she is doing well but is a slow process so give her a chance and a bit of confident
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:16:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:22:37 GMT
It's unfair bc she had been ill that is not indicate she will be always ill , she is doing well but is a slow process so give her a chance and a bit of confident I'd give her all the time she needs. I'm just worried bc she says she's fine and totally herself now. But I don't see that. I'd rather like it if she was just honestly saying I'm not cured yet but will be or something like that. But I guess in hollywood it's hard to be very honest since the producers of shows and studios aren't that patient.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:24:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:28:37 GMT
Access hollywood video. I think she is better but maybe she never will be your old Hayden bc that old Hayden wasn't liked to new Hayden and just she is another version of Hayden so if we are their fans we have to accept her like she is now and forget old Hayden. People change and in my opinion I see her more mature now than then
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:46:30 GMT
Access hollywood video. I think she is better but maybe she never will be your old Hayden bc that old Hayden wasn't liked to new Hayden and just she is another version of Hayden so if we are their fans we have to accept her like she is now and forget old Hayden. People change and in my opinion I see her more mature now than then But do you really like a hayden that doesn't care much for social stuff and animals and is quite uptight? I don't know but in my opinion that's not herself. Didn't you love the funny and open hayden who always did lots of socialxstuff who tried to save the whales and cared for many things? For me this was the person i shipped and loved to ship. I think she just tries to convince herself she's herself now. Or she's still taking antidepressants. And those pills change people's personalities and make them unempathic. I hope though she isn't still taking them. I mean in any way i'll always ship her as an actress that's for sure. But as a person, i'm not sure if the old hayden never comes back and she denies her old self i don't consider myself still a fan of her as person. But that's a thing we'll have to see for the future. If she has a good tv role in the future and does social stuff again i'll stop worrying and complaining promised.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 15:01:00 GMT
I think she has more tissues than save the whales ( sorry ) like raise up her child, feel better every day and Wlad, she has changed her priorities and as soon as possible you assume that that will be better for you , she is a new Hayden in my opinion either you stand by her side or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 16:38:19 GMT
In my opinion there's no such thing as a new hayden. People change yes but in their core they should stay themselves. Being there for your child doesn't mean you have to give up being social and being more uptight, wearing fur, using botox etc. I really like her words about being herself and being a role model for her child and so on. But I think Kaya would want to look up to a mum that is a social person, one that cares of others don't you think? I want to support her and I will for now bc i have the hope once she adapted to her new life with child her old self (and in my opinion real self comes back). I don't say she hs to be exaclty like e.g. in 2013. Of she changes but staying true to omeof your core believes and being social was one of hayden's core believes is also important. I really want to beleive that what she said now is just part of her recovery process and this may take some time of course.
But if her old self never comes back then it would be self-denial and that might also affect her career. And I wouldn't want to support this. But of course it's to early to seriously assume this. I'm just worried. But for now I will go on supporting her of course. My worries just mean I care for her. I know she's not member of my family so I can't help her in real life, nontheless as a shipper of her I want her to be herself. And I think wlads uptight and unsupportive behavior might be part of why she maybe has some problems of finding back to herself.
And there's no such thing as old or new self actually. Either her social comittment and all her funny and livly behavior was just a fake thing i believed was true (and in this case I'm probably wrong in this forum) or she hasn't really found back to herself now and needs support to get back. I remember her environmental media award speech and it was a great speech and also all her interview. She was always so whitty, funny, open and full of life in those interviews, appearances etc. Even when she was just telling some dirty joke for esquire lol. But I'm sure all of this was her real self. Lately she seemed happy and determined but also a bit tired and without much feelings in her interviews and just not caring much for for her surroundings. Sure this is just my view on that but to me it felt that way. Maybe she's still on these awful antidepressants.
Anyways I want to support her to get her real self full of life and joy back (and for now I'm very hopeful) and not to keep her current personality. Bc in her current state I like people like emma watson, emilia clarke and others somehow more. But that's just my opinion you don't have to share this opinion of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 16:57:05 GMT
I think you want a unreal hayden, that little princess that she was when she did heroes and all that creepy guys like adrian pasdar drooling around her, but that little princess who fought against whales hunters that girl for me no longer exist , she has grew up ( sorry It's how I feel it)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 17:12:23 GMT
I think you want a unreal hayden, that little princess that she was when she did heroes and all that creepy guys like adrian pasdar drooling around her, but that little princess who fought against whales hunters that girl for me no longer exist , she has grew up ( sorry It's how I feel it) Gosh I don't say she has to be a little princess. I know she was pretty fake back then. But i refer to her real self that developped after heroes starting in 2011 untill she gave birth. I know she didn't do much for whales anymore by then but that might be due to ABC/Disney. I don't blame her for this. But the current hayden is maybe not as fake as at her heroes times but still not her real self. Unless her personality from the recent years was also fake but than I don't consider myself any longer a fan of her. I don't want to ship her current perosnality. She's quite uptight, dosn't care for social causes and animals etc. That is not grown up in my eyes. In such a case I would still ship her as an actress of course bc she's a great one. But I don't believe those last 5 years where all fake, so I go on supporting her and believe she'll become more caring and social and maybe even more open again once she found back into her current life. This believe and hope is the only thing that keeps me here at the moment. I mean it's good she wants to be open about her PPD and not hide anymore and she has my full support for this but i also don't want her to forget her real self in this process. It's just this. I mean maybe it's really better to just care for an actors as an actor and not for his/her personality. Interviews should be work related and not about personal stuff. And many celebs keep and especially kept in the past their personal lifes private. So fans never really noticed or worried about their lifes. But hayden has always been very open about her personal life and hence i started caring for her as person. I mean in the past when she was on heroes I only shipped her as actress not as person. I only saw/read some heroes related interviews with her and the only personal info I knew was the stuff from wikipedia. I think if i back then would've cared for her personal life I'd have never become a fan. But once i cared more fer her life that was already 2011 and she already started becoming more and more herself. And then she also got twitter and now knowing much more about her than in the past it's just impossible for me to stop caring for her life and personal well-being, even if this would maybe be better. I know this is probably not what you want to hear from me but that's how I feel. Edit: As you may see in the other thread she's currently more close to her LA freinds again and not so much anymore to her nashville friends. The last time she was like that was in 2011 and 2012 where she was pretty social and open. Knock on wood that this is a good sign.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 20:07:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 20:35:39 GMT
In this one she's more honest actually. She says that she hasn't fully recovered yet and that it is a steady but slow process. The interviewer asked her what she looks forward to most on the show and she said having more time with Kaya now. A strange answer since the show and kaya are actually not related, I think she misunderstood the question. But anyways she's happy to spend more time with kaya.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 20:57:49 GMT
Okk thanks!!!
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Post by laffytaffy on Jan 18, 2016 21:25:01 GMT
I do believe she's on medicine, her demeanor gives that away which nothing is wrong with that, we truly don't know what her real issues were aside from ppd. Hayden may have other illnesses too, it's possible but I do find that she comes off as trying to convince everyone she's okay. It's her business though so I try to remember that.
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