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Post by ADC fan on Sept 13, 2017 22:16:02 GMT
So i'm bothered by her behavior and you really should learn accepting other opinions same as sophia. Just bc you guys don't care it doesn't mean others don't care too. But ok in the end it's of course her choice how shw behaves i'm not expecting her to changw it for her fans. But celebs build their whole career on their fans's support. Bc without fans no showbusiness. So yes I expect them to give something back, even if it's some occasional pic or event appearance. Celebs are mostly jerks with a privileged life who get a lot of admiration. So give something back or don't be in the showbusiness. Just my opinion. As for the escort thing it's very well possible she has done something like that too not just lindsay. Just bc you don't believe in the rumours it doesn't mean they aren't true at all. But that is another story. I simply don't see her behavior as being as off as you do. There are mothers with worse behaviors than hers. Waaaay worse. I've known some.
Giving back is good, she has giving many autographs and taken many pictures. Even pics of her kid for people interested in that aspect of her life. I'll admit to being more interested in her than her kid. I don't even like seeing the kids pictures anyways, since her daughter has no say in it.
She was on a yacht once and was photographed with a bruise on her. Doses that mean she was escorting? Or doing kinky S&M? There were rumors to the latter years ago. Which I approve of.
I guess we should just agree that we disagree on her behavior or the giving back thing.
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 13, 2017 22:22:03 GMT
I'm not angered by her actions in the slightest. I don't know her. Her life is none of my business. I don't always agree, but it doesn't anger me or keep me up at night. How could it? Her life doesn't reflect on me or my family, I don't give a shit lol She doesn't owe me shit. What the hell have I ever done for her? If you don't give a shit why are you here? Ok for wlad. But if I gave a shit on what she's doing i'd have left this forum quite some time ago. I know that most here either never really cared for her or stoped caring after she has changed so much and hence don't give a shit anymore, but me not yet. I know I'm likely fighting a losing battle amd should just forget her, but I still have a little hope lol.
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Post by tinycho on Sept 13, 2017 23:58:47 GMT
I'm not angered by her actions in the slightest. I don't know her. Her life is none of my business. I don't always agree, but it doesn't anger me or keep me up at night. How could it? Her life doesn't reflect on me or my family, I don't give a shit lol She doesn't owe me shit. What the hell have I ever done for her? If you don't give a shit why are you here? Ok for wlad. But if I gave a shit on what she's doing i'd have left this forum quite some time ago. I know that most here either never really cared for her or stoped caring after she has changed so much and hence don't give a shit anymore, but me not yet. I know I'm likely fighting a losing battle amd should just forget her, but I still have a little hope lol. There's no battle. That's the thing. There's no battle to be fought. You say forget her like you're a scorned lover or something. It is what it is. She is who she is. That's it.
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 14, 2017 0:12:21 GMT
If you don't give a shit why are you here? Ok for wlad. But if I gave a shit on what she's doing i'd have left this forum quite some time ago. I know that most here either never really cared for her or stoped caring after she has changed so much and hence don't give a shit anymore, but me not yet. I know I'm likely fighting a losing battle amd should just forget her, but I still have a little hope lol. There's no battle. That's the thing. There's no battle to be fought. You say forget her like you're a scorned lover or something. It is what it is. She is who she is. That's it. I know it's not a battle, but my dictionary translated it that way lol. What i wanted to say is that it's kind of a lost cause in trying to care for her since most nnever cared or gave up. But I still have some hope.
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Post by laffytaffy on Sept 14, 2017 0:30:34 GMT
Lord.
I'm just going to echo the others on the fact that none of us personally know Hayden, and I think I've said it before, it's overboard to speak as if we actually know her.
We see pictures and can speculate but to go in depth saying, "She needs to do this and I fear she is so unhappy" is a bit much because she COULD actually be happy with how her life is.
Remember, you cannot change her to fit your ideal image of her.
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 14, 2017 4:16:18 GMT
Good lord I never said she has to fit my ideal iamge of her. You probably didn't really read or understant my posts. I just want her more her old self again that is all. And I don't like certain of her actions. I never expected her to be perfect. If all you guys can't understand that fine, but stop criticizing my opinion. Bc that is really enervating and tiring. You guys have your opinions as well and express them pretty loud at times and I do accept that, even if I disagree with you. If you don't like it or can't accept me expressing mine...nobody says you have to read the hayden section at all. But since I'm the only one here who may be critical, but also still cares for her and her career and stuff, I will go on posting pics of her as well as my opinion.
I have seen all of you having expressed opinions about her that are far from what regular fans would say or I would say. I don't always agree with you and you not with me and that is ok. But expecting me to accept your opinion, but at the same time not accepting mine is very hypocritical. So please let's not do this, bc this forum was made for criticism and own opinions that might stand against other opinions. If that is not possible we can also all go back to fanforum where such opinions are generally not tolerated, they would be very happy to have all the old people back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 10:14:44 GMT
Good lord I never said she has to fit my ideal iamge of her. You probably didn't really read or understant my posts. I just want her more her old self again that is all. And I don't like certain of her actions. I never expected her to be perfect. If all you guys can't understand that fine, but stop criticizing my opinion. Bc that is really enervating and tiring. You guys have your opinions as well and express them pretty loud at times and I do accept that, even if I disagree with you. If you don't like it or can't accept me expressing mine...nobody says you have to read the hayden section at all. But since I'm the only one here who may be critical, but also still cares for her and her career and stuff, I will go on posting pics of her as well as my opinion. I have seen all of you having expressed opinions about her that are far from what regular fans would say or I would say. I don't always agree with you and you not with me and that is ok. But expecting me to accept your opinion, but at the same time not accepting mine is very hypocritical. So please let's not do this, bc this forum was made for criticism and own opinions that might stand against other opinions. If that is not possible we can also all go back to fanforum where such opinions are generally not tolerated, they would be very happy to have all the old people back. why do you care for her? You speak like your her ex boyfriend or you know her so good always! if you want to leave to go to fanforum go ahead but saying 'all' should go back is you trying to control everything. Get over yourself you don't know hayden. If they are so happy to have old people, goodbye!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 10:19:14 GMT
Lord. I'm just going to echo the others on the fact that none of us personally know Hayden, and I think I've said it before, it's overboard to speak as if we actually know her. We see pictures and can speculate but to go in depth saying, "She needs to do this and I fear she is so unhappy" is a bit much because she COULD actually be happy with how her life is. Remember, you cannot change her to fit your ideal image of her. i'm sorry laffy for saying some things here but this place all I see is one person always talking like he knows hayden so much. It's sick behavior. I enjoy everyone talking but there is one person here who is not normal and makes this place not comfortable.
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Post by joebob on Sept 14, 2017 12:27:31 GMT
I'm not a fan of everything she does, since I don't know her, it's hard to look at it under a microscope. Some things that are said have been said publically. Like when I joke about Wlad possibly liking guys. Other boxers have publically said it before.
Many celebs have a tendency to lead different lives than your average joe. Most people cannot go around the world every time they have a week off from their jobs like these people do.
They are people like we are. But they have the ability to lead different lives.
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 14, 2017 14:47:47 GMT
I'm not a fan of everything she does, since I don't know her, it's hard to look at it under a microscope. Some things that are said have been said publically. Like when I joke about Wlad possibly liking guys. Other boxers have publically said it before. Many celebs have a tendency to lead different lives than your average joe. Most people cannot go around the world every time they have a week off from their jobs like these people do. They are people like we are. But they have the ability to lead different lives. That is fine for me if you think wlad is gay, that is your opinion. I just ask that people here accept that I have my opinons as well
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 14, 2017 14:50:34 GMT
Good lord I never said she has to fit my ideal iamge of her. You probably didn't really read or understant my posts. I just want her more her old self again that is all. And I don't like certain of her actions. I never expected her to be perfect. If all you guys can't understand that fine, but stop criticizing my opinion. Bc that is really enervating and tiring. You guys have your opinions as well and express them pretty loud at times and I do accept that, even if I disagree with you. If you don't like it or can't accept me expressing mine...nobody says you have to read the hayden section at all. But since I'm the only one here who may be critical, but also still cares for her and her career and stuff, I will go on posting pics of her as well as my opinion. I have seen all of you having expressed opinions about her that are far from what regular fans would say or I would say. I don't always agree with you and you not with me and that is ok. But expecting me to accept your opinion, but at the same time not accepting mine is very hypocritical. So please let's not do this, bc this forum was made for criticism and own opinions that might stand against other opinions. If that is not possible we can also all go back to fanforum where such opinions are generally not tolerated, they would be very happy to have all the old people back. why do you care for her? You speak like your her ex boyfriend or you know her so good always! if you want to leave to go to fanforum go ahead but saying 'all' should go back is you trying to control everything. Get over yourself you don't know hayden. If they are so happy to have old people, goodbye! I have no intention in going away as I said. Why I care for her and hope she will be more her old self one day? Bc I actually do like her despite being critical. I'm kind of worried. That is how fandom actually works. If I didn't care for her why would I read her interviews, follow her on twitter be on hayden forums etc. If you don't care for her that is fine for me. Never said you have to share my worries. But just accept that not everyone is having the same opinion as you.
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 14, 2017 17:45:44 GMT
Just read about how selena gomez had a secret kidney transplant this summer bc of lupus. But she has always been hiding her treatments or pretended it was depression treatment. So given hayden's puffy face earlier this year and again another rehab stint, i wonder if ahe maybe actually suffers from some kind of disease or syndrome. Or maybe it's really just repeated drug treatment. I mean drugs is very well possible with her lol. But i just suddenly wondered if it was something else.
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 14, 2017 18:00:53 GMT
But if she suffered from a disease i think she would have gine public with ut by now. Maybe not immediately, but still.
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Post by baconisgood on Sept 14, 2017 18:03:37 GMT
But if she suffered from a disease i think she would have gine public with ut by now. Maybe not immediately, but still. Well it wouldn't be life threatening if she's been drinking.....and Wlad didn't give enough of a shit to come to the US to visit LOL
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Post by laffytaffy on Sept 14, 2017 19:49:21 GMT
But if she suffered from a disease i think she would have gine public with ut by now. Maybe not immediately, but still. Well it wouldn't be life threatening if she's been drinking.....and Wlad didn't give enough of a shit to come to the US to visit LOL LOL! Right.
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