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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 14, 2017 2:37:43 GMT
Continue discussing things here.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 14, 2017 13:46:59 GMT
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 14, 2017 16:11:58 GMT
Stoners paradise basically, LOL.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 14, 2017 17:23:57 GMT
Stoners paradise basically, LOL. Very true 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 14, 2017 20:49:44 GMT
Stoners paradise basically, LOL. Very true 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 It's okay for her friends who don't have kids, but I think she's trash for being there when she has a kid. Go take vacations with your kid. Not your party friends.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 14:53:26 GMT
It's okay for her friends who don't have kids, but I think she's trash for being there when she has a kid. Go take vacations with your kid. Not your party friends. 👏👏 amen
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 16, 2017 14:30:41 GMT
I think hayden is in some way a toy for emily. I mean emily behaves childish, hayden behavs childish. Emily smokes, hayden smokes. Emily gets coloured hair, hayden gets coloured hair. Emily gets fake nails, hayden gets fake nails and if emily gets space buns hayden does too. She is like a kid and does all that emily does. She is so not independent. It looks like she can't take her own decisions. But she is 27 and she should act like it and not like 7. Remember kate york, she was basically the nashvile version of emily. Also into alcohol, smoking, etc. Both are bi-sexual alpha women. Hayden seems to fall for such kind of women. And I have the feeling while hayden wears the pants in relationships with men, in relationships to a female best friend/girl friend she is quite submissive. She managed to free herself from kate, whcih was good for her, but still not from emily. For submissive people it's extremely difficult to understand they don't have to be somebodys "toy" or "slave" etc.
I mean this sure is no relationship like the really hard cases, where the dominator beats the submissive. Emily would never do this. But emily sure expects hayden to do the things she wants. I have no proof for this but i could see it, bc it totally its in the rumours about her past. Those were surely exaggerated, but lkely had a certain truth to them. Remember the lighter as necklace in some pics? Such things are not uncommon in BDSM. To force the submissive to wear certain actually ridiculous things as necklace for example to show that this person is your property. Bc yes hayden smokes, but wearing a lighter?? I doubt she would do this normally.
It's maybe bc emily expects it that hayden stays with her and leaves wlad and kaya alone. I mean hayden is childish, but really such a careless person bc she wants it that way? I doubt it, I'm not ready to believe hayden is so heartless, but I'm totally ready to see her as a mentally troubeled submissive. Wlad has to step in and and separate hayden from emily if necessary by force. Hayden has better, more responsible friends in nashville. I know forcing is not ok and it's important to respect the free will of a person, but if hayden really is in a submissive-dominator relationship, with emily you can't come with arguments (I might be wrong and she is simply careless and that's all). Both submissive as well as opressive people have mental issues with themselves and others and if you want to free a submissive from her or his fate you have to step in and be their new dominator and slowly but steadily bring them to accept that there is more to life than serving a person, it's also important to not do these things to quick, bc else you might turn a submissive back in to the arms of a real dominator. I'm sure wlad tried to show her better ways, but he may have tried it too much and too soon and gave hayden control over their relationship, but she actually wanted to be submissive and hence hangs around mostly with alpha women. And these days, wlad may not even care anymore.
This all is just a theory and it might be wrong, but there is evidence that shows at least a certain tendency to what i said. Anyway, whatever is really going on, it's a sad situation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 15:16:07 GMT
I think hayden is in some way a toy for emily. I mean emily behaves childish, hayden behavs childish. Emily smokes, hayden smokes. Emily gets coloured hair, hayden gets coloured hair. Emily gets fake nails, hayden gets fake nails and if emily gets space buns hayden does too. She is like a kid and does all that emily does. She is so not independent. It looks like she can't take her own decisions. But she is 27 and she should act like it and not like 7. Remember kate york, she was basically the nashvile version of emily. Also into alcohol, smoking, etc. Both are bi-sexual alpha women. Hayden seems to fall for such kind of women. And I have the feeling while hayden wears the pants in relationships with men, in relationships to a female best friend/girl friend she is quite submissive. She managed to free herself from kate, whcih was good for her, but still not from emily. For submissive people it's extremely difficult to understand they don't have to be somebodys "toy" or "slave" etc. I mean this sure is no relationship like the really hard cases, where the dominator beats the submissive. Emily would never do this. But emily sure expects hayden to do the things she wants. I have no proof for this but i could see it, bc it totally its in the rumours about her past. Those were surely exaggerated, but lkely had a certain truth to them. Remember the lighter as necklace in some pics? Such things are not uncommon in BDSM. To force the submissive to wear certain actually ridiculous things as necklace for example to show that this person is your property. Bc yes hayden smokes, but wearing a lighter?? I doubt she would do this normally. It's maybe bc emily expects it that hayden stays with her and leaves wlad and kaya alone. I mean hayden is childish, but really such a careless person bc she wants it that way? I doubt it, I'm not ready to believe hayden is so heartless, but I'm totally ready to see her as a mentally troubeled submissive. Wlad has to step in and and separate hayden from emily if necessary by force. Hayden has better, more responsible friends in nashville. I know forcing is not ok and it's important to respect the free will of a person, but if hayden really is in a submissive-dominator relationship, with emily you can't come with arguments (I might be wrong and she is simply careless and that's all). Both submissive as well as opressive people have mental issues with themselves and others and if you want to free a submissive from her or his fate you have to step in and be their new dominator and slowly but steadily bring them to accept that there is more to life than serving a person, it's also important to not do these things to quick, bc else you might turn a submissive back in to the arms of a real dominator. I'm sure wlad tried to show her better ways, but he may have tried it too much and too soon and gave hayden control over their relationship, but she actually wanted to be submissive and hence hangs around mostly with alpha women. And these days, wlad may not even care anymore. This all is just a theory and it might be wrong, but there is evidence that shows at least a certain tendency to what i said. Anyway, whatever is really going on, it's a sad situation. :/ don't share this same view. hayden makes her own choice and she likes what she is doing.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 16, 2017 15:18:41 GMT
Yes that is also true, and she is old enough to make own choices. But still I beleive there is at least a certain influence from emily that makes her act in a certain way.
But in the end we can't be sure whats happening. In any way she should be with her kid.
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Post by joebob on Aug 16, 2017 19:33:59 GMT
I think it's fantasy to know how Hayden acts with a man or a woman.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 16, 2017 20:12:28 GMT
I think it's fantasy to know how Hayden acts with a man or a woman. True nobody of us really knows what's going on or how she is with men or women. But we can speculate about this.
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Post by joebob on Aug 16, 2017 20:21:27 GMT
I think it's fantasy to know how Hayden acts with a man or a woman. True nobody of us really knows what's going on or how she is with men or women. But we can speculate about this. How do we even know she's with women? Or ever has been?
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 16, 2017 21:32:43 GMT
Eh I don't know if someone would do something he or she doesn't want to do. As adults, we all make our own decisions.
Hayden clearly enjoys being with her party friends over Kaya judging by the length of time they're apart and the kind of videos/pictures we see.
She definitely doesn't have it all together, and that's not on anyone but HERSELF.
I feel bad for Kaya in this. Not Hayden. She doesn't get sympathy from me.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 16, 2017 22:19:57 GMT
You may be right, but in some relationships there are people who have the other making all decisions for them. I get it's difficult to understand why a person would be so submissive. I don't know if hayden is that way. I guess not after all.
But she definitely tries to emulate emily and her cheap behavior. Maybe she thinks by doing so she is a real hippy/hipster and part of the group and by that can forget her other life with wlad and kaya. That would also explain her seemingly being high in some of the videos.
And yes i agree, if she really wanted it, she could change whatever situation she is in.
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Post by tinycho on Aug 16, 2017 22:41:24 GMT
Eh I don't know if someone would do something he or she doesn't want to do. As adults, we all make our own decisions. Hayden clearly enjoys being with her party friends over Kaya judging by the length of time they're apart and the kind of videos/pictures we see. She definitely doesn't have it all together, and that's not on anyone but HERSELF. I feel bad for Kaya in this. Not Hayden. She doesn't get sympathy from me. 100% agree!
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