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Post by ADC fan on Aug 29, 2017 15:51:18 GMT
Yes though if they made hayden disappear who is an american and even though just b-list these days still a celeb, this would cause a diplomatic issues between US and Ukraine, given that the family of a now high ranking politician was (likely) involved in the disappearance. No i doubt they would ever risk that.
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 29, 2017 15:58:10 GMT
I don't believe in any of that stuff about people disappearing or that he made her sign something while holding Kaya over her head.
Kaya was born in America (Hawaii) so Hayden could easily have her BUT she is also a druggie and has been in and out of rehab several times so him using that on her I think is more logical when it comes to Kaya.
I think they both wanted a kid for separate reasons.
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 29, 2017 16:03:54 GMT
I wanted to add that, Hayden having Kaya in Hawaii over Ukraine was the smartest thing she did but I also hope that she hasn't allowed Wladimir to make Kaya a Ukrainian citizen.
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Post by joebob on Aug 29, 2017 16:10:43 GMT
I wouldn't be shocked. Does the kid even speak English?
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 29, 2017 16:22:13 GMT
I wouldn't be shocked. Does the kid even speak English? I don't think so compared to Russian which is sad since English is her mothers native language.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 29, 2017 16:49:53 GMT
I wanted to add that, Hayden having Kaya in Hawaii over Ukraine was the smartest thing she did but I also hope that she hasn't allowed Wladimir to make Kaya a Ukrainian citizen. I think she has both citizenships.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 29, 2017 16:52:57 GMT
I wouldn't be shocked. Does the kid even speak English? I don't think so compared to Russian which is sad since English is her mothers native language. She speaks english but with heavy accent, bc she learned it after russian bc apparently wlad didn't think it was important to teach her both languages. he even said that. They are both jerks that disrespect each other in several occasions but always try to let this look like it was part of their relationship. Like her ignoring his retirement. He then said he was happy they (including hayden) stayed in the background. They are pathological liars.
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 29, 2017 16:55:38 GMT
I wanted to add that, Hayden having Kaya in Hawaii over Ukraine was the smartest thing she did but I also hope that she hasn't allowed Wladimir to make Kaya a Ukrainian citizen. I think she has both citizenships. Wladimir once said to become a citizen elsewhere he would have to drop his Ukrainian one. I'm sure he has the unlimited visa which gives him rights to have places in other countries. She could be a duel citizen but maybe she's a Ukrainian one since her father is extremely obsessed with Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if Kaya is a citizen there. Rich people have those unlimited Visas so Kaya would still be able to live elsewhere but when it came down to custody, if she is indeed a Ukrainian citizen, Hayden is fucked.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 29, 2017 16:57:48 GMT
I think she has both citizenships. Wladimir once said to become a citizen elsewhere he would have to drop his Ukrainian one. I'm sure he has the unlimited visa which gives him rights to have places in other countries. She could be a duel citizen but maybe she's a Ukrainian one since her father is extremely obsessed with Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if Kaya is a citizen there. Rich people have those unlimited Visas so Kaya would still be able to live elsewhere but when it came down to custody, if she is indeed a Ukrainian citizen, Hayden is fucked. I hope hayden was smart enough to clearly say no to this and make sure she has the citizenship of the US too. But then again hayden...smart...
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 29, 2017 16:59:03 GMT
Wladimir once said to become a citizen elsewhere he would have to drop his Ukrainian one. I'm sure he has the unlimited visa which gives him rights to have places in other countries. She could be a duel citizen but maybe she's a Ukrainian one since her father is extremely obsessed with Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if Kaya is a citizen there. Rich people have those unlimited Visas so Kaya would still be able to live elsewhere but when it came down to custody, if she is indeed a Ukrainian citizen, Hayden is fucked. I hope hayden was smart enough to clearly say no to this and make sure she has the citizenship of the US too. I hope so too even if I do see her as a messy person, still not right on Wladimir's part. He does seem like a shady controlling guy though.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 29, 2017 17:01:04 GMT
I hope hayden was smart enough to clearly say no to this and make sure she has the citizenship of the US too. I hope so too even if I do see her as a messy person, still not right on Wladimir's part. He does seem like a shady controlling guy though. Agree, I don't know how shady he really is. But if he is blackmailing hayden with kaya then he is a criminal jerk and should be behind bars. But i really hope this is not the case. Bc while hayden is a messy person whith enough issues she doesn't deserve to be threated like a piece of scum. But i must also say (and that is not against ukraine in general), if I was an american woman I'd never start a relationship with some shady guy from eastern europe. Yes I know it sounds a bit xenophobic, but it's true.
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Post by baconisgood on Aug 29, 2017 17:35:50 GMT
I'd be shocked if Kaya didn't have dual Citizenship. I remember someone I know of had a baby in Belgium (she's married to a man from there, they live there) she's American. Her kid is a dual citizen of both Belgium and America (even though the kid has never been to America). I think you just apply for it (I don't know)
Wlad has her in Ukraine/Germany what seems like 90% of the time, she speaks mainly Russian. IMO if there was a custody showdown, Wlad with get her. With all her rehab stays, leaving her daughter for several weeks at a time to fool around with her friends/work, it would be easy.
My hunch is they already have a custody agreement. Wlad has full custody, and she gets visitation and supervised stays. It's pretty rare that a mother ALLOWS her child to spend the majority of their time with her dad in another country. I get she has to be in Nashville for work, BUT I would never allow my small child to be away from me for long periods of time. I'd INSIST Wlad spend more time in Nashville. ......I'm smart and would have worked all this out BEFORE getting engaged to someone and having a kid...so.....hmm
She must not give two shits. Shes spent a lot of time away from her baby/small child. How is that normal? ..or right? IMO it's one of two things: >>>#1... they have a contract relationship, she had the baby FOR HIM. She visits, stays in her life. >>>#2...She really has PPD, doesn't have much of a connection with her own kid. Everybody just kinda gave up on her after several rehab/treatment stays and she still continues to act stupid, drink/party with friends/men. Wlad doesn't want K around her bullshit.
Either way...Wlad has full custody (it's obvious)
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Post by laffytaffy on Aug 29, 2017 18:56:49 GMT
I'd be shocked if Kaya didn't have dual Citizenship. I remember someone I know of had a baby in Belgium (she's married to a man from there, they live there) she's American. Her kid is a dual citizen of both Belgium and America (even though the kid has never been to America). I think you just apply for it (I don't know) Wlad has her in Ukraine/Germany what seems like 90% of the time, she speaks mainly Russian. IMO if there was a custody showdown, Wlad with get her. With all her rehab stays, leaving her daughter for several weeks at a time to fool around with her friends/work, it would be easy. My hunch is they already have a custody agreement. Wlad has full custody, and she gets visitation and supervised stays. It's pretty rare that a mother ALLOWS her child to spend the majority of their time with her dad in another country. I get she has to be in Nashville for work, BUT I would never allow my small child to be away from me for long periods of time. I'd INSIST Wlad spend more time in Nashville. ......I'm smart and would have worked all this out BEFORE getting engaged to someone and having a kid...so.....hmm She must not give two shits. Shes spent a lot of time away from her baby/small child. How is that normal? ..or right? IMO it's one of two things: >>>#1... they have a contract relationship, she had the baby FOR HIM. She visits, stays in her life. >>>#2...She really has PPD, doesn't have much of a connection with her own kid. Everybody just kinda gave up on her after several rehab/treatment stays and she still continues to act stupid, drink/party with friends/men. Wlad doesn't want K around her bullshit. Either way...Wlad has full custody (it's obvious) Eh, I blame the distance thing on Wladimir. Hayden works in the US, he works in Europe in which he doesn't have to remain there like he does unlike Hayden who can't just live in Europe since she has filming for months at a time in Nashville. I do think Wladimir has always been selfish when it came to travels. You look back at the history of their relationship for all these years, much of the time, Hayden was always chasing after him and being over there for him. We had brief moments from 2013-2014 where he was making kind of an effort but that all stopped. He would have time off for a month even longer and he chose to travel to France and all these other places instead of coming to the states which in my opinion, he's beyond ridiculous/selfish like I said before ON TOP OF THIS, they do have a kid together. He could/should make proper arrangements to have Kaya somewhat close to Hayden at least in the same country but he doesn't. It's all his way or no way. Of course I don't know for sure if this is the case but by seeing/following his movements, it comes off that way. Hayden is messy from how she acts and the stuff we see and I know she's on drugs but if Wladimir actually worked with her and was a better support system for her, I do believe she wouldn't be as bad as she is. The things she tweets is almost like her way of crying/venting. I know that sounds dramatic but I do believe Hayden has some things she's forced to keep hidden...all for the sake of Wladimir's clean image.
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Post by ADC fan on Aug 29, 2017 19:22:11 GMT
I'd be shocked if Kaya didn't have dual Citizenship. I remember someone I know of had a baby in Belgium (she's married to a man from there, they live there) she's American. Her kid is a dual citizen of both Belgium and America (even though the kid has never been to America). I think you just apply for it (I don't know) Wlad has her in Ukraine/Germany what seems like 90% of the time, she speaks mainly Russian. IMO if there was a custody showdown, Wlad with get her. With all her rehab stays, leaving her daughter for several weeks at a time to fool around with her friends/work, it would be easy. My hunch is they already have a custody agreement. Wlad has full custody, and she gets visitation and supervised stays. It's pretty rare that a mother ALLOWS her child to spend the majority of their time with her dad in another country. I get she has to be in Nashville for work, BUT I would never allow my small child to be away from me for long periods of time. I'd INSIST Wlad spend more time in Nashville. ......I'm smart and would have worked all this out BEFORE getting engaged to someone and having a kid...so.....hmm She must not give two shits. Shes spent a lot of time away from her baby/small child. How is that normal? ..or right? IMO it's one of two things: >>>#1... they have a contract relationship, she had the baby FOR HIM. She visits, stays in her life. >>>#2...She really has PPD, doesn't have much of a connection with her own kid. Everybody just kinda gave up on her after several rehab/treatment stays and she still continues to act stupid, drink/party with friends/men. Wlad doesn't want K around her bullshit. Either way...Wlad has full custody (it's obvious) Though when hayden is in nashville she does have kaya alone. Ok there likely is a nanny. But she had kaya alone with her earlier this year without wlad being there.
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Post by baconisgood on Aug 29, 2017 20:20:09 GMT
Having a nanny with her is what I was referring to when I said "supervised".
Yeah, you're probably right about that. Wlad almost never comes to the US. He COULD/SHOULD stay for longer periods of time, but he doesn't. He (seemingly) doesn't try to accommodate her at all, even when he has time off.........which is major evidence they aren't a couple anymore.
The least he could do is stay in Miami for a few weeks here and there so Hayden could fly to see Kaya (or other way around) on weekends. I don't think he wants her to be around Kaya all that much.....we can only speculate why. Drugs, booze, partying, strange men around.....plus the possible ppd thing (if she actually has it). Maybe she did something horrible? or threatened to do something horrible? (in sickness) ...we'll never know.
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