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Post by baconisgood on Feb 27, 2023 20:27:19 GMT
Those articles that came out saying Jansen was popping pills like crazy, that has to be the reason he passed. My uncle pretty much passed the same way. Drugs will really damage your heart. Kind of how Jim Morrison went too, he was found dead in the bathtub from all his alcohol and drug use. I wonder if Jansen mixed alcohol and pills and it gave him a heart attack. My question is, how do they know right away he died from an enlarged heart? I thought autopsies took like 8 weeks. Any physical abnormalities in the body will be detected immediately during the autopsy. They usually wait for the toxicology report to come back before making a full determination, unless it’s obvious right away. You can determine he died from having an enlarged heart and aortic valve issue ..but what caused or contributed to them? Lisa Marie Presley died of cardiac arrest (her heart stopped), but they haven’t said what caused the arrest yet. If he had drugs in his system at the time of death, they might be determined to be a co-factor, depending on levels, like if he took drugs shortly before he died. I notice that on the TMZ article they mention the actual coroner hasn’t come out and publicly stated what the official cause of death is. I bet they won’t until the full report is done. I know when someone has long-term drug and alcohol abuse it can often be seen in the condition of the organs + they could test his hair to determine how long he’s been off the wagon and taking what (I just saw this on dateline last night) He more than likely already had an undetected health condition and it became worse from his drug abuse and weight gain. Many people have done way more drugs, way more often than Jansen and lived to tell about it. This is my official guess…but I’m not a doctor, so…🤷🏼♀️ lol
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Post by baconisgood on Feb 27, 2023 20:42:26 GMT
Vitali’s ex wife Natalia posted on the condolences page as Nataliya Yegorova. I see she goes by Natalia Yegorova on social media now.
She has definitely moved on lol. I hope her next man is handsome and successful.
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Post by ohgeesh65 on Feb 27, 2023 21:13:05 GMT
Vitali’s ex wife Natalia posted on the condolences page as Nataliya Yegorova. I see she goes by Natalia Yegorova on social media now. She has definitely moved on lol. I hope her next man is handsome and successful. Yeah either both the Klitschko brothers make shitty boyfriends/husbands or their pickers are off lol. Like they seem like nice and mature men but that doesn’t guarantee they make a good partner. Natalia took her bag and split, LOL. Hayden could have gotten so much better than Brian. Major downgrade. Oh well
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Post by ohgeesh65 on Feb 27, 2023 21:17:01 GMT
Those articles that came out saying Jansen was popping pills like crazy, that has to be the reason he passed. My uncle pretty much passed the same way. Drugs will really damage your heart. Kind of how Jim Morrison went too, he was found dead in the bathtub from all his alcohol and drug use. I wonder if Jansen mixed alcohol and pills and it gave him a heart attack. My question is, how do they know right away he died from an enlarged heart? I thought autopsies took like 8 weeks. Any physical abnormalities in the body will be detected immediately during the autopsy. They usually wait for the toxicology report to come back before making a full determination, unless it’s obvious right away. You can determine he died from having an enlarged heart and aortic valve issue ..but what caused or contributed to them? Lisa Marie Presley died of cardiac arrest (her heart stopped), but they haven’t said what caused the arrest yet. If he had drugs in his system at the time of death, they might be determined to be a co-factor, depending on levels, like if he took drugs shortly before he died. I notice that on the TMZ article they mention the actual coroner hasn’t come out and publicly stated what the official cause of death is. I bet they won’t until the full report is done. I know when someone has long-term drug and alcohol abuse it can often be seen in the condition of the organs + they could test his hair to determine how long he’s been off the wagon and taking what (I just saw this on dateline last night) He more than likely already had an undetected health condition and it became worse from his drug abuse and weight gain. Many people have done way more drugs, way more often than Jansen and lived to tell about it. This is my official guess…but I’m not a doctor, so…🤷🏼♀️ lol That’s horrifying. Hayden already said her doctor told her that her liver was severely damaged from all her drinking, she has GOT to be careful! I’m hoping this is a wake up call for her. I truly do.
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Post by ohgeesh65 on Feb 27, 2023 21:23:27 GMT
Saw this blind item today. Take with a grain of salt but it def sounds like it’s talking about Hayden and Jansen
“Maybe the acting sister would like to speculate on how the cause of death manifested itself in her sibling. She certainly raced to get ahead of whatever story is coming out next week.”
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Post by laffytaffy on Feb 27, 2023 23:30:57 GMT
So the trippy thing is I've seen a lot of random IG users posting about their loved ones on their death beds (graphic af) and how they developed heart issues from long term drug usage and stuff so I feel Jansen's heart issue is related to extensive drug addictions and so forth.
I believe the Panettiere family are trying to save face by immediately putting out a story about an enlarged heart perhaps because they don't want people calling him a junkie (ya know people like me) or it falling on Hayden because it's obv both siblings got high together along with partied as well. I mean he was partying hard with Hayden, and Brian early into that messy relationship. They both have been up and down with their weight, appearances and so forth.
What's sad is how none of them want to take accountability, Hayden especially, which we all knew from her stupid interviews where she's basically blaming everyone else but herself. Obviously it's not anyone's fault that Jansen is dead because he ultimately chose his path but they all had their hands dirty in some ways, or many ways.
I do wonder how this is gonna play out a month or two from now when the toxicology comes back? Or is there a way for them to keep it hush hush? Hayden has done a good job at remaining in hiding, and hiding out with her issues (drugs, abuse etc) so I wouldn't be shocked if they keep it sealed like out the public which I believe is possible.
As for Klitschko's, I don't feel any of them will attend the funeral cause I'm betting Brian Bitcherson will be in attendance and that could get messy ON TOP of the fact that Wladimir acts like he can't travel cause the "war" but will travel around Europe with no issues. He's too obsessed with collecting money, and weapons. I mean the dude couldn't post about his midget friend that died, but posted about his rich friend that owned Gold's Gym and his death so it seems like he's more into praising and loving his ultra rich German friends or whoever they're.
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Post by baconisgood on Feb 28, 2023 0:00:53 GMT
Any physical abnormalities in the body will be detected immediately during the autopsy. They usually wait for the toxicology report to come back before making a full determination, unless it’s obvious right away. You can determine he died from having an enlarged heart and aortic valve issue ..but what caused or contributed to them? Lisa Marie Presley died of cardiac arrest (her heart stopped), but they haven’t said what caused the arrest yet. If he had drugs in his system at the time of death, they might be determined to be a co-factor, depending on levels, like if he took drugs shortly before he died. I notice that on the TMZ article they mention the actual coroner hasn’t come out and publicly stated what the official cause of death is. I bet they won’t until the full report is done. I know when someone has long-term drug and alcohol abuse it can often be seen in the condition of the organs + they could test his hair to determine how long he’s been off the wagon and taking what (I just saw this on dateline last night) He more than likely already had an undetected health condition and it became worse from his drug abuse and weight gain. Many people have done way more drugs, way more often than Jansen and lived to tell about it. This is my official guess…but I’m not a doctor, so…🤷🏼♀️ lol That’s horrifying. Hayden already said her doctor told her that her liver was severely damaged from all her drinking, she has GOT to be careful! I’m hoping this is a wake up call for her. I truly do. Her liver should be ok now if she really has been sober and she stays that way. The liver will heal itself, unless you’ve reached the stage of cirrhosis. There’s nothing you can do after that besides a transplant. I’ve read you can lose a chunk of your liver and it will grow back. Crazy stuff. I went back and read what she said about her liver. She had yellow eyes (jaundice) and the doctor told her she was almost at the stage where it won’t heal itself anymore = almost had cirrhosis. Yeah, that’s bad. She’s lucky. I’ve been reading a lot about livers lately because I accidentally found out in January mine has too much fat on it. I was having stomach issues (gastritis/GERD type things) including my stomach feeling full all day long for months. They did an ultrasound to look at my gallbladder and they found that lol. I’ve been eating basically perfect, lost a pound per week (10 to go) and already feel a lot better. Curing myself! I’m not even that overweight, probably similar to how Hayden looked on the beach a few weeks ago, but I have been eating a too much sugar and carbs this past year. Whatever….scared me straight 👍🏼
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Post by baconisgood on Feb 28, 2023 0:43:03 GMT
So the trippy thing is I've seen a lot of random IG users posting about their loved ones on their death beds (graphic af) and how they developed heart issues from long term drug usage and stuff so I feel Jansen's heart issue is related to extensive drug addictions and so forth. I believe the Panettiere family are trying to save face by immediately putting out a story about an enlarged heart perhaps because they don't want people calling him a junkie (ya know people like me) or it falling on Hayden because it's obv both siblings got high together along with partied as well. I mean he was partying hard with Hayden, and Brian early into that messy relationship. They both have been up and down with their weight, appearances and so forth. What's sad is how none of them want to take accountability, Hayden especially, which we all knew from her stupid interviews where she's basically blaming everyone else but herself. Obviously it's not anyone's fault that Jansen is dead because he ultimately chose his path but they all had their hands dirty in some ways, or many ways. I do wonder how this is gonna play out a month or two from now when the toxicology comes back? Or is there a way for them to keep it hush hush? Hayden has done a good job at remaining in hiding, and hiding out with her issues (drugs, abuse etc) so I wouldn't be shocked if they keep it sealed like out the public which I believe is possible. As for Klitschko's, I don't feel any of them will attend the funeral cause I'm betting Brian Bitcherson will be in attendance and that could get messy ON TOP of the fact that Wladimir acts like he can't travel cause the "war" but will travel around Europe with no issues. He's too obsessed with collecting money, and weapons. I mean the dude couldn't post about his midget friend that died, but posted about his rich friend that owned Gold's Gym and his death so it seems like he's more into praising and loving his ultra rich German friends or whoever they're. OMG I wrote a whole thing, left to research some stuff on google, came back and my entire reply was erased 🤬 lol I don’t disagree with your points. I do think they put out a statement to squash all the talking and speculation. Even if it does turn out that he had a condition he was born with, he still did a bunch of drugs for years and probably made it all worse, or even gave him new problems. If he did have something beforehand, Hayden better get a full heart work up, because it could be genetic and she’s put her body through hell too. I also said she was supposed to have her big comeback with this movie. Interviews, mag features, red carpet, maybe a late night appearance. That really sucks for her. The Scream 6 red carpet is March 6th according to one website (the thing I researched that erased my post lol) Funeral is March 8th. I’m doubtful she’ll be at the premiere, or anywhere doing promo for it. I think she did stuff for magazine features to come out soon (beach shoot) I guess they’ll just put that out and maybe put an update in it. Im 50/50 on Brian being at the funeral. Her team might not want him seen next to her in pictures and video. If he does come, he might be snuck in the side door. I wonder how much time he spent around the family lately? Do they still accept him? He might not want to show up around all of them at once and face questions , sideways looks and finger pointing. If they had their heads on straight (mehhh I don’t know) they’d use this to get her alone and talk some sense into her. Try to prevent her from further bonding with this 💩 in a time like this.
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Post by baconisgood on Feb 28, 2023 0:51:00 GMT
From what I’ve read so far, I don’t think death records are public in NYC. They might be able to keep things quiet.
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Post by baconisgood on Feb 28, 2023 5:00:42 GMT
I just happened to see this post on datalounge. They make interesting points. Ughh I can’t copy and paste it, it won’t let me, maybe because I’m not registered. It’s post #4 www.datalounge.com/thread/32531311-hayden-panettiere-breaks-her-silence-on-brother-jansen-s-death-it-was-an-enlarged-heart-which-killed-himThis person who has had an aortic valve defect their entire life went without symptoms. They said they find it interesting that if he did have this condition, he must not have been to a doctor his entire adult life because a murmur would be heard with just a stethoscope. I would also like to add something to this that sprung to my mind. He supposedly had really bad anxiety. Well, I have anxiety too and have had to go to the ER a few times for panic attack related stuff. They always listened to my heart and gave me an electrocardiogram. Once I got an ultrasound of the area. I just googled. It says an ECG would definitely detect an enlarged heart and valve issue. Didn’t they do a medical work up at the rehab? They do those on rehab tv shows so they’re not killing people while putting them through detox and want to find out what damage they’ve done to themselves. He never went to the ER for panic attacks with his really bad anxiety? Maybe it’s different because he’s in the USA and you would have to pay $$$ to go to the ER and get tests done? I’m in Canada and don’t have to worry about stuff like that. If he’s still an actor, I think he might have health benefits with SAG (actors union) He was shooting a movie during the pandemic. It’s just something interesting, I thought.
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Post by laffytaffy on Feb 28, 2023 5:23:50 GMT
Yeahhhhhh his enlarged heart issues stems from years of drug usage imo.
Rehab they literally monitor the heart, body and all of the above especially with withdrawing and most addicts go through withdraw.
They can post about him having a heart condition all the want but I don’t buy it given what I know about rehab centers and all of that. It’s cute a lot will believe he had some pre existing heart condition though.
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Post by laffytaffy on Mar 9, 2023 16:05:02 GMT
Did his girlfriend even attend the funeral?
I feel like she knew him best, I mean if Brian was there and able to be seated in the front row (skip added pics) in the family row, where was Jansen's girlfriend?
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Post by ADC fan on Mar 9, 2023 17:08:49 GMT
Did his girlfriend even attend the funeral? I feel like she knew him best, I mean if Brian was there and able to be seated in the front row (skip added pics) in the family row, where was Jansen's girlfriend? Where dud skip post those pics?
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Post by ohgeesh65 on Mar 9, 2023 17:27:39 GMT
Did his girlfriend even attend the funeral? I feel like she knew him best, I mean if Brian was there and able to be seated in the front row (skip added pics) in the family row, where was Jansen's girlfriend? Yes she was there, on another news website, the paparazzi got a shot of her walking into the church.
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Post by ohgeesh65 on Mar 9, 2023 18:22:50 GMT
Was Jansen cremated? There was no casket at the funeral I’m thinking he was
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