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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 13:40:29 GMT
Really bc the official name of their churches is temple. So i deeply hope she was in a church and not a mormon temple. I don't want hayden to be brainwashed by this sect. Plus there she will surely not find genuine happiness. I hope she despite her current state she has the strength to stay away from them. But it's still a bit strange she's in utah for her treatment.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 13:48:41 GMT
The sad thing though is this D.I thrift store she worked at is a mormon store. That is not good. I fear hayden is losing herself there in utah. Please get out of utah hayden. And go somewhere where you can find real happiness. THis d.i thing is a kind of sectarian. Sorry but i think salt lake city is all about mormons (not all utah of course but the city) and I'm worried hayden is there. Maybe derek hough convinced her to become a mormon or something.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 14:02:06 GMT
We don't really know if hayden is stills there, untill we have a new info on twitter . Cross fingers!! Btw she thinks spend far away from wlad too? She can be quiet in austria too
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Post by tinycho on May 13, 2016 14:10:11 GMT
The sad thing though is this D.I thrift store she worked at is a mormon store. That is not good. I fear hayden is losing herself there in utah. Please get out of utah hayden. And go somewhere where you can find real happiness. THis d.i thing is a kind of sectarian. Sorry but i think salt lake city is all about mormons (not all utah of course but the city) and I'm worried hayden is there. Maybe derek hough convinced her to become a mormon or something. Well she's definitely doing something "spiritual", that's for sure. Based on how she worded her tweet.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 14:13:01 GMT
Wlad will be okay? Or he has let her go bc he can't help her anymore? She needs realize by her own
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 14:19:28 GMT
These D.I people though don't really help you with every job. They first let you work in their shops and give a it of money and try to give you jobs in associated companies working in science technology and health care. It's for people who are unemployed But I honestly doubt hayden want to have a job in some office somewhere, plus she's not in need of money. And she was voluntarily working at D.I. an not for money. Maybe she just wanted to do something good and offered to work there for a day or maybe two. After all she was only seen there once. But actually isn't part of these guys work program and also didn't join the sect. I think if hayden was missionizing at doors somebody would've tweeted about it lol. So I doubt it
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 14:32:30 GMT
Back in december when she came back I was so happy. But now I'm worried and sad. I just don't see this light at the end of the tunnel. Neither for us as fans nor or them as couple or for her personally. I can only hope she finds a good solution and doesn't get trapped into something bc of her current mental state, something she'll regret later. Bc if she turns to a sect we'll likely not be able to help her in the future. Nobody will, not even wlad or her family bc once people are indoctrinated it's hard to go back and you become dependent from them. I mean she can even if being a mormon live a modern and normal life, like derek hough, julianne hough or Paul walker when he was still alive.
But that's the question will she turn to mormonism? I don't think so and that she rather worked there at this store just for that day but you never know. Also it would even decrease the chance that wlad and hayden get marrid. It's possible for mormons and non-mormons to get married but it's pretty difficult and with all the difficulties apart of that it would certainly not happen, unless they marry at a register office. I hope she'll just stay true to herself. She's at a border to a deep abyss. All we can do is hope and pray that she stays strong and finds a way to happiness and come back without falling into this abyss.
Also if hayden becomes a mormon what will this mean for kaya? Sects tend to try urge paretns to invlove children as soon as possible. I think wlad should take care of these facts. Wait and see how hayden develops and if she really becomes a mormon and if si if she's the derek hough amont of mormon which would be not such a problem or a really extreme one. And will her depression become better or not. In those cases wlad probly will need to leave hayden and take kaya with him. I mean I sincerely hope it won't get that far. It's only an "if scenario". He'll have to wait and see how things develop and do everything possible to help her. Also her friends and family need to.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 20:21:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 20:59:54 GMT
I hope that neither. But sometimes mentally unstable people get trapped into sects. let's hope she just got some help in utah and worked a bit voluntarily for mormons without turning into a mormon and soon returns to her family and friends. bc without them she won't find happiness. Thats for sure. I'm pretty sure derek hough has something to do with it. You don't just go to utah and do service in a mormon shop unless some mormon recruited you. Sects have become way to dangerous and important the recent decades. Both christan and muslim sects. That is the downside of religious freedom (which in general is important and good of course). Bc with normal religions also come sects. In any way it can't be coincidence hayden is there now shortly after working with a mormon celeb. I already mistrusted derek hough when I saw im for the first time. These cold blue eyes lol. Like tom cruise with his scientology. I could see him seeing her problems and bad mental state while on set and he used the opportunity of her weak mind to convince her to at least try mormonism out for some time or whatever. he saw the chance to do his missinary work like all members of all sects are required to do. I hope I'm very wrong with this assumption. But right now I'm also not ruling it out. Maybe we should start talking about other stuff in here. Maybe other Tv shows or whatever. As a distraction untill we know more about these things and what's really going on.
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Post by laffytaffy on May 13, 2016 23:48:30 GMT
Honestly, she needs to grow up. I hate being mean but come on now, you've had many months to "recover" and her constantly putting it out there that she's suffering from postpartum depression now just comes off as her (in my opinion) not wanting to be a mother or deal with mother like responsibilities.
I've assumed for a long time, she has other issues but I just don't like this constant "postpartum" excuse. Again, I know she doesn't owe anyone any truth to what her real issue is but at least stop claiming it's from that particular depression.
Both her and Wladimir don't even have their child 24/7 like normal/regular parents do who aren't entertainers. SMH
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 23:53:44 GMT
It's ok to say this even if it's kind of mean. And I agree. Maybe she was just too young. She should've enjoyed her young life a bit more before having kids.
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Post by laffytaffy on May 14, 2016 0:05:05 GMT
It's ok to say this even if it's kind of mean. And I agree. Maybe she was just too young. She should've enjoyed her young life a bit more before having kids. It's past that now tbh. She claimed for years she wanted children and couldn't wait. Now that you have one you're not wanting to actually be a mother? You need to be away from your daughter constantly to find yourself? As if, it's time for her to grow up. She's 26 and her daughter will be two this year. She's had plenty of time to get over her "postpartum" depression. Millions of women have this struggle but they can't just run off to different states or countries to find themselves for long periods of time. You rarely need a rehab center or some facility for postpartum depression. Sorry but it's true. I'm not saying she doesn't have some kind of mental illness, what I'm saying is I don't believe it's postpartum anymore. I think she's used to Kaya being handled by Wladimir's mother so she can take these random, "find myself" long trips. Shame on both of them, Hayden/Wladimir. Anyway, my rant is done. Lol, sorry.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 0:27:08 GMT
No problem. I doubt she's in rehab just now. That was mostly made up by the press. But as I said before I think kaya is with hayden. If not then yes this self finding trip without her daughter is kind of shameful. Bc it serioulsy won't help her. I don't think you can be happy if you leave family and friends behind.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 3:52:52 GMT
We now got all these nice pics. But in the end it doesn't change anything about all the problems we discussed here. I mean we also got pics where she looked happy shortly before she entered her first treatment. But i doubt she was really happy then or now.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 6:20:11 GMT
Whatever's wrong is her, she needs support, not bitching about her or complaining that she isn't want you want her to be or go "WAH, I MIGHT SOMEONE ELSE TO SHIP..." Can we just on that and move on? It'd helping anyone.
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