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Post by laffytaffy on Oct 20, 2015 18:15:16 GMT
Jesus Christ you're all behaving like a bunch of kids in a playground!!! Right now I'm happy I actually have a job to distract me so I can't get involved in these conversations. Just because Jansen posted ONE photo of him shopping lots of stuff doesn't make him a materialistic asshole. Where did you all get that from really?? Why did he delete it? LOL, there's a reason why because of public viewing. My whole point is, celebrities put on acts for the public. It's not me being a kid on a playground, it's me speaking realistically. Come on now. You like myself can have a job and still have conversations like this as well too if you want. Just like with our jobs/career, we have to act a certain way, we can't be our true selves on the job because of watchful eyes such as boss and managers just like Hayden, Wlad and thousands of other celebrities. |
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Post by laffytaffy on Oct 20, 2015 18:16:52 GMT
Also Jansen reminds me of a lot of the rich kids I grew up with and even were friends with, acting self made when they're aren't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 18:29:56 GMT
Jesus Christ you're all behaving like a bunch of kids in a playground!!! Right now I'm happy I actually have a job to distract me so I can't get involved in these conversations. Just because Jansen posted ONE photo of him shopping lots of stuff doesn't make him a materialistic asshole. Where did you all get that from really?? Thank you and sorry for my long posts. I know they're sometimes awkwardly long. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 18:40:51 GMT
I can be a fan of her, which I am, but I think more realistic in my opinion on how she is around her friends and away from the public eye. I've seen tons of pictures from her away from the public. Plus other stuff like many of her comments on insta. Some sweet some not so much. She quickly gets angry and criticzes people for trifles like the post with scotty you told me or another one i saw. I'm sometimes behaving very similar and that's why i can relate to this. She's a firebrand. And i know this is not a good character trait. But she can also be a very kind and warmhearted person and this is certainly not fake lol. But she's open about these flaws. That's why she's different from her bro or mse or wlad who have maybe similar imperfections as hayden but are insincere and live behind a persona all the time. And that honesty is also the reason why i'm still a fan of her but not of wlad her bro or mse. In the past i believed they werr all nice people with actually less flaws than hayden. But that was only bc they hide them and made me believe they don't have them. I dislike this insincere behavior. And hence i don't want to be a fan of any of the three. |
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Post by laffytaffy on Oct 20, 2015 18:44:17 GMT
I can be a fan of her, which I am, but I think more realistic in my opinion on how she is around her friends and away from the public eye. I've seen tons of pictures from her away from the public. Plus other stuff like many of her comments on insta. Some sweet some not so much. She quickly gets angry and criticzes people for trifles like the post with scotty you told me or another one i saw. I'm sometimes behaving very similar and that's why i can relate to this. She's a firebrand. And i know this is not a good character trait. But she can also be a very kind and warmhearted person and this is certainly not fake lol. But she's open about these flaws. That's why she's different from her bro or mse or wlad who have maybe similar imperfections as hayden but are insincere and live behind a persona all the time. And that honesty is also the reason why i'm still a fan of her but not of wlad her bro or mse. In the past i believed they werr all nice people with actually less flaws than hayden. But that was only bc they hide them and made me believe they don't have them. I dislike this insincere behavior. And hence i don't want to be a fan of any of the three. Seeing pictures doesn't mean you know how she is in her private world, you just see a image. AGAIN, stop saying I'm calling her fake 100%. I'm saying she is no different than the people she surrounds herself with! Jesus. |
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Post by laffytaffy on Oct 20, 2015 18:47:10 GMT
I'm done with this topic. We can just go back to pretending that Hayden is being soooooo influenced and doesn't have a brain of her own.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 18:48:43 GMT
arawen for me it's not only for a pic but his attitude lol sorry he is a silly and please please hyden come back soon we are getting nuts lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 19:13:22 GMT
I'm done with this topic. We can just go back to pretending that Hayden is being soooooo influenced and doesn't have a brain of her own. I don't say she has no brain but we can say wlad influenced her in a bad way not her other freinds though. Even you yourself said that in the past. So please stop with your accusations to me. Maybe she's not that different than MSE but she's still nicer than him. I don't even know why're debating wether Hayden is nicer than MSE or not lol. I think this is ridiculous. And I don't know why my arguments are so hard to understand. Is my English that bad? I don't know. I don't exaclty know her life, but I think there are some tendencies one can see in so many pics and comments and comparing this to her public life. You don't know either if your assumptions about her being partly fake are true. So please don't act as if you knew so much more then me. Bc through you posts I get the feeling you don't even respond my arguments but just put them aways as naive. And sorry, but I'm not liking this. Just like you found it ridiculous when i ciriticized hayden for her 9/11 tweet I think the same about your comments about her fakeness. I don't know what you like in her but I like her for being honest. Way more than some of the people around her. Just bc she has these friends it doesn't mean she's as fake as them. She may have some similar flaws as them but it doesn't make her like them. And with them we speak about a couple of freinds of hayden whil she has so many others who are nice people. I agree that the influence of MSE on her is not as big as I probably said before, bc in this case she would be exactly as insincere as him or wlad about her bad character traits and one could say she had no brain. But she has one and hence the influence is only a minor thing. Apart of that I'm done now as well. I just don't want to think or talk about hayden and these certain friends anymore. I just think I like her for the person she is and that's all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 19:13:58 GMT
arawen for me it's not only for a pic but his attitude lol sorry he is a silly and please please hyden come back soon we are getting nuts lol Yes we need new stuff lol. |
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Post by tinycho on Oct 20, 2015 21:40:08 GMT
Lol is all this really necessary over people we don't know?
Like....know at all? Not even a little bit.
As I've mentioned before in a previous post, there's NO reason to get upset or angry or worked up over people we've never met. In the end, do you think these people give a damn about you in the end?
Probably not.
No celebrity is perfect, no matter how much we would like them to be. Everyone had a good side, everyone has their demons. To place a celebrity on a pedestal is a mistake in itself. Because when you set them up that high, and they mess up, that's gonna be a long way down.
I hear both sides of this argument and i see points on both sides. As an individual, you're responsible for yourself and aren't responsible for the actions of friends. True. But who you hang with also speaks volumes about who you are as it reflects on the choices you make when it comes to your life. You are who you hang with.
It would be wise to recognize that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 22:03:38 GMT
Lol is all this really necessary over people we don't know? Like....know at all? Not even a little bit. As I've mentioned before in a previous post, there's NO reason to get upset or angry or worked up over people we've never met. In the end, do you think these people give a damn about you in the end? Probably not. No celebrity is perfect, no matter how much we would like them to be. Everyone had a good side, everyone has their demons. To place a celebrity on a pedestal is a mistake in itself. Because when you set them up that high, and they mess up, that's gonna be a long way down. I hear both sides of this argument and i see points on both sides. As an individual, you're responsible for yourself and aren't responsible for the actions of friends. True. But who you hang with also speaks volumes about who you are as it reflects on the choices you make when it comes to your life. You are who you hang with. It would be wise to recognize that. I never said hayden is perfect that's just a rumour certain people released in here. Ok it's true that if someone only has jerk friends he/she is most likely a jerk too. But hayden has so many nice and down to earth friends which actually are the majority so i don't wnat to criticize hayden for still keeping this jerk couple mse/sanoe as friends. Wlad instead only has these jerk friends. I think that shows a difference in them and it makes hayden a more likable but certainly not perfect person. It at least shows she's able to change no matter how many flaws she might have or might not have. In the past i also made some friends other people would consider as jerks. Most i gave up. With two i'm still friends. I hope noone of you considers me now a fake person for that. I'm ready to admit i'm not perfect at all, just like hayden. And for me this is enough to like her. There are other things though, that would make me dislike hayden but that's another story. i think for now we should more focus on hayden's well-being instead of her flaws and strange friends. |
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Post by laffytaffy on Oct 20, 2015 22:06:01 GMT
Lol is all this really necessary over people we don't know? Like....know at all? Not even a little bit. As I've mentioned before in a previous post, there's NO reason to get upset or angry or worked up over people we've never met. In the end, do you think these people give a damn about you in the end? Probably not. No celebrity is perfect, no matter how much we would like them to be. Everyone had a good side, everyone has their demons. To place a celebrity on a pedestal is a mistake in itself. Because when you set them up that high, and they mess up, that's gonna be a long way down. I hear both sides of this argument and i see points on both sides. As an individual, you're responsible for yourself and aren't responsible for the actions of friends. True. But who you hang with also speaks volumes about who you are as it reflects on the choices you make when it comes to your life. You are who you hang with. It would be wise to recognize that. Obviously I know that Hayden/Wlad and their friends could care less about fans opinion. I also know NONE of us know them personally. I wasn't angry, annoyed yes because I know no one is perfect. You've basically said everything I've been saying.  |
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Post by tinycho on Oct 20, 2015 22:08:28 GMT
Lol is all this really necessary over people we don't know? Like....know at all? Not even a little bit. As I've mentioned before in a previous post, there's NO reason to get upset or angry or worked up over people we've never met. In the end, do you think these people give a damn about you in the end? Probably not. No celebrity is perfect, no matter how much we would like them to be. Everyone had a good side, everyone has their demons. To place a celebrity on a pedestal is a mistake in itself. Because when you set them up that high, and they mess up, that's gonna be a long way down. I hear both sides of this argument and i see points on both sides. As an individual, you're responsible for yourself and aren't responsible for the actions of friends. True. But who you hang with also speaks volumes about who you are as it reflects on the choices you make when it comes to your life. You are who you hang with. It would be wise to recognize that. I never said hayden is perfect that's just a rumour certain people released in here. Ok it's true that if someone only has jerk friends he/she is most likely a jerk too. But hayden has so many nice and down to earth friends which actually are the majority so i don't wnat to criticize hayden for still keeping this jerk couple mse/sanoe as friends. Wlad instead only has these jerk friends. I think that shows a difference in them and it makes hayden a more likable but certainly not perfect person. It at least shows she's able to change no matter how many flaws she might have or might not have. In the past i also made some friends other people would consider as jerks. Most i gave up. With two i'm still friends. I hope noone of you considers me now a fake person for that. I'm ready to admit i'm not perfect at all, just like hayden. And for me this is enough to like her. There are other things though, that would make me dislike hayden but that's another story. i think for now we should more focus on hayden's well-being instead of her flaws and strange friends. You have a point, Hayden does have nice friends. It's a valid statement. However, I have two arguments to that. First, do you know those friends personally? Or are you going based off of what you've seen/heard in the press, or do you know them personally? Two, Wladimir has jerk friends. Are you going based off of what you've seen or heard in the press, or do you know them personally? Do you see what I'm getting at? What do we really KNOW about ANYTHING? |
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Post by tinycho on Oct 20, 2015 22:11:23 GMT
And @laffy, I wasn't addressing anyone directly with my first post, I was just addressing the discussion in general and just throwing in my two cents. There was no aim or anything. I'm pretty neutral in all this as usual  |
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Post by laffytaffy on Oct 20, 2015 22:15:34 GMT
And @laffy, I wasn't addressing anyone directly with my first post, I was just addressing the discussion in general and just throwing in my two cents. There was no aim or anything. I'm pretty neutral in all this as usual I understand, you seem better at saying what I'm always trying to say on some topics. |
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