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Post by laffytaffy on May 25, 2019 12:09:02 GMT
I wonder how they are still together despite that Restraining order, How long will that order last? It's not hard to still be together despite a restraining order. All they have to do is remain lowkey, don't go anywhere together and probably shut out all their friends (which I'm sure they did long before now). He is due in court June 23 so I bet from this point on, he's going to enter anger management classes, maybe even an alcohol addiction class to make himself look good so when that date rolls around, the judge can see he's trying to better himself and I bet the restraining order will be lifted. Besides, Hayden didn't push for a restraining order.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 12:35:54 GMT
I wonder how they are still together despite that Restraining order, How long will that order last? It's not hard to still be together despite a restraining order. All they have to do is remain lowkey, don't go anywhere together and probably shut out all their friends (which I'm sure they did long before now). He is due in court June 23 so I bet from this point on, he's going to enter anger management classes, maybe even an alcohol addiction class to make himself look good so when that date rolls around, the judge can see he's trying to better himself and I bet the restraining order will be lifted. Besides, Hayden didn't push for a restraining order. here in my country the abusers with restraining orders wear a bracelet that alerts the police if the abuser approaches his victim. I do not see it so easy tbh
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Post by laffytaffy on May 25, 2019 12:38:58 GMT
It's not hard to still be together despite a restraining order. All they have to do is remain lowkey, don't go anywhere together and probably shut out all their friends (which I'm sure they did long before now). He is due in court June 23 so I bet from this point on, he's going to enter anger management classes, maybe even an alcohol addiction class to make himself look good so when that date rolls around, the judge can see he's trying to better himself and I bet the restraining order will be lifted. Besides, Hayden didn't push for a restraining order. here in my country the abusers with restraining orders wear a bracelet that alerts the police if the abuser approaches his victim. I do not see it so easy tbh This is America, that is NOT a thing here lol.
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Post by laffytaffy on May 25, 2019 12:51:12 GMT
Only things we have here are ankle monitors for people on house arrest in some form but for restraining orders, NO.
One has to report another for violating a restraining order and there has to be proof. I do wish we had monitors for restraining orders though. I think we have ONE state that considered them but not sure if they went through with it.
So Hayden/Brian are prob laid up indoors somewhere. Addicts shut people out anyway so no one can snitch on them.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 15:02:31 GMT
Only things we have here are ankle monitors for people on house arrest in some form but for restraining orders, NO. One has to report another for violating a restraining order and there has to be proof. I do wish we had monitors for restraining orders though. I think we have ONE state that considered them but not sure if they went through with it. So Hayden/Brian are prob laid up indoors somewhere. Addicts shut people out anyway so no one can snitch on them. Ok thanks
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Post by ADC fan on May 25, 2019 17:33:32 GMT
here in my country the abusers with restraining orders wear a bracelet that alerts the police if the abuser approaches his victim. I do not see it so easy tbh This is America, that is NOT a thing here lol. But it should be tbh, where I'm from we don't have that either, but i think it's a pretty smart idea. Bc else who gives a fuck about such an order lol.
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Post by laffytaffy on May 26, 2019 2:46:03 GMT
This is America, that is NOT a thing here lol. But it should be tbh, where I'm from we don't have that either, but i think it's a pretty smart idea. Bc else who gives a fuck about such an order lol. It would be a very smart idea for every country to have this because restraining orders are pretty useless.
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Post by baconisgood on May 26, 2019 4:02:24 GMT
But it should be tbh, where I'm from we don't have that either, but i think it's a pretty smart idea. Bc else who gives a fuck about such an order lol. It would be a very smart idea for every country to have this because restraining orders are pretty useless. ITA All you have to do is watch crime shows like Dateline and see how almost all the abused woman murdered by her partner (ex partner) have tried to get help, got restraining orders .....and then the dude ignores it and kills them. I follow someone who was just posting about her family member needing one last week. Ill post about it in the random thread
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Post by laffytaffy on May 26, 2019 21:55:31 GMT
It would be a very smart idea for every country to have this because restraining orders are pretty useless. ITA All you have to do is watch crime shows like Dateline and see how almost all the abused woman murdered by her partner (ex partner) have tried to get help, got restraining orders .....and then the dude ignores it and kills them. I follow someone who was just posting about her family member needing one last week. Ill post about it in the random thread Meanwhile you got a dumb fuck like Hayden willingly staying with an abusive guy because she enjoys how they party together.
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Post by baconisgood on May 26, 2019 22:16:40 GMT
ITA All you have to do is watch crime shows like Dateline and see how almost all the abused woman murdered by her partner (ex partner) have tried to get help, got restraining orders .....and then the dude ignores it and kills them. I follow someone who was just posting about her family member needing one last week. Ill post about it in the random thread Meanwhile you got a dumb fuck like Hayden willingly staying with an abusive guy because she enjoys how they party together. I try to look at both sides of the coin, but how do you explain a bunch of red marks on her body and face? Even if she was going crazy and attacking him ...and he was grabbing at her, trying to get her off (stuff like that) ...wouldn’t he have marks too? I assume that would be in the report. We didn’t see the full report though. How would that be handled? If they both had marks and she attacked him first etc. Would they both be taken in for assault? 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by ADC fan on May 26, 2019 22:23:42 GMT
Hayden is so small i find it hard to believe she could really hurt brian lol. But who knows.
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Post by laffytaffy on May 26, 2019 22:23:50 GMT
Meanwhile you got a dumb fuck like Hayden willingly staying with an abusive guy because she enjoys how they party together. I try to look at both sides of the coin, but how do you explain a bunch of red marks on her body and face? Even if she was going crazy and attacking him ...and he was grabbing at her, trying to get her off (stuff like that) ...wouldn’t he have marks too? I assume that would be in the report. We didn’t see the full report though. How would that be handled? If they both had marks and she attacked him first etc. Would they both be taken in for assault? 🤷🏼♀️ Never got a mugshot either. So cops determined he needed to go to jail because of the marks all over Hayden, which meant he probably had NONE. He also tried to lie to them too. I did read somewhere, I want to say on page six maybe but I could be wrong, where the prosecutor said he choked her, hit her which explains the red marks all over her neck. Even if she was mutually fighting him, she's what 5'1 and he's 6 ft? Something like that. He's much bigger than her. So he beat up Jansen too (probably others around them as well like friends) so that leads me to believe Brian is the main abuser in that relationship and uses being drunk as the excuse.
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Post by laffytaffy on May 26, 2019 22:29:53 GMT
Also, remember his Instagram post in the new year where he said his friends are good to him when he doesn't deserve it and Hayden was in the pic?
BINGO.
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Post by baconisgood on May 26, 2019 22:30:15 GMT
Hayden is so small i find it hard to believe she could really hurt brian lol. But who knows. I’m an inch shorter than her......my abusive loser boyfriend (from way back) was 6ft tall He used to start shit and one day I started fighting back. I full-out punched him in the face and he fell backwards on the ground 🤣
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Post by ADC fan on May 26, 2019 22:33:25 GMT
Hayden is so small i find it hard to believe she could really hurt brian lol. But who knows. I’m an inch shorter than her......my abusive loser boyfriend (from way back) was 6ft tall He used to start shit and one day I started fighting back. I full-out punched him in the face and he fell backwards on the ground 🤣 I‘m glad I was never in an abusive relationship.
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