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Post by laffytaffy on Sept 27, 2022 22:14:07 GMT
It's that not understanding what accountability means on her end. It's like she blames everyone else and does not take a look in the mirror. This woman is delusional.
She said it was other peoples fault for giving her drugs when she was a teen, and granted, yes, no adults should've been giving drugs to teens but hello!!! I did drugs as a teen, and who provided? Adults, which they were creepy as hell for hanging out with us anyhow but I chose to stop doing drugs, to stop the party scene on my own.
Now the narrative being spun is that Wlad didn't give her a chance. I'm sure if she wasn't with an abusive asshole, he would've never had papers drawn up so fast. I hope his team releases something in his defense but he's so about Ukraine, I doubt he cares.
Like all they gotta do is release something like, "Wlad wanted Hayden to be part of Kaya's life, however that became difficult when she chose to continue a destructive violent relationship with Brian [to which she's still engaged in] on top of being heavily addicted to drugs and booze over getting better," C'MON WLAD'S "SOURCES" lmaooooooo.
Gosh. I'm done now. She's so nasty.
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Post by simona on Sept 27, 2022 22:24:09 GMT
Wlad’s sources need to drop something!
Her lack of accountability is really disgusting. Even more so the fact no one is calling her out on it. A PR friend thinks it’s part of her victimhood redemption tour so she can get jobs
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Post by laffytaffy on Sept 28, 2022 1:04:08 GMT
Oh for sure this is all about her getting jobs again.
I did check daily mail out and there’s like 300+ comments of people who share the same view as us here lol.
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Post by simona on Sept 28, 2022 2:14:49 GMT
Oh for sure this is all about her getting jobs again. I did check daily mail out and there’s like 300+ comments of people who share the same view as us here lol. Glad we’re not alone!
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 28, 2022 17:03:14 GMT
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 28, 2022 17:04:52 GMT
I give Wlad TONS of props for having papers drawn up. Imagine Kaya being beat on by a man that isn't her father? There's so many stories about step dads killing kids that weren't theirs from beatings. The more she talks, the more annoying she becomes because it's obv she's not sober and it amazes me how she doesn't say anything bad about Brian but has the nerve to make Wlad out to be this bad guy that took her daughter away from her. Like we've all said, she CHOSE not to be a mother, she CHOSE to spend time with Brian over her own creation and she CHOSE drugs & alcohol and the prob more than a dozen beatings she's got from Brian just like she continues to CHOOSE being with Brian, protecting Brian while now trying to sway masses against Wlad. I've already seen comments like "Poor Hayden," No, poor fucking Kaya. Exactly. +1 to all of this!
It's such a contradiction. Nothing but high praise for him as a person and a father but the second she's "got her life back together", filming a movie, doing interviews, he's suddenly a bad guy?
C'mon now.
Yeah her blaming wlad is not a good thing, he was not great in this either, but certainly not alone at fault.
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Post by tinycho on Sept 28, 2022 18:53:45 GMT
Speaking from family experience, I had a relative who was addicted to cocaine and custody was taken away and granted to the father. And she didn't just give custody, they had to take it. (Which might have been what Wlad did) She will tell you now, clean and sober, that it was the best thing that could have happened.
And doesn't paint the father as anything but a hero.
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Post by ohgeesh65 on Sept 28, 2022 22:07:28 GMT
Her face is still bloated looking too. Don’t know if that is from the alcohol abuse?
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 28, 2022 22:52:04 GMT
Her face is still bloated looking too. Don’t know if that is from the alcohol abuse? Or other stuff, but honestly without whatever addicitive she's taking and the botox either she'd look a lot better.
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Post by ADC fan on Sept 28, 2022 22:52:27 GMT
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Post by baconisgood on Sept 30, 2022 3:20:27 GMT
I’ll have to watch that interview a little later. I actually don’t like Jada or Kelly Osborne so this will be hard
So she’s starting to paint herself as the victim of Wlad and the family now? Not totally shocked, it’s what celebs and wannabe celebs do now. When you’ve fucked up you come out with a story of trauma and blame others for it. Seems to work
I will say, that most of us here have said before that Wlad has controlling ways. I’m not going to paint him as a saint, but I’m not ready to paint him as the bad guy in this either. What the hell was he and the family supposed to do when she’s drunk and high all the time and doesn’t want to take care of her own child?
He was smart to make it legal. She was dumb to sign FULL custody over to him. There is little chance she will get it back unless he wants to cooperate with her and give it to her in the future. He’s got a very good reputation, especially over in Europe and his home country. She’s an admitted substance abuser who has woman beaters around and fights in the streets 😂A judge won’t be swayed by social media support.
I wonder where the papers were signed? Bonus points to him if he had it done in Europe.
Messy He’s forever a fool for getting involved with a woman like this and having a baby. It makes you look at him sideways
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Post by ohgeesh65 on Sept 30, 2022 4:18:20 GMT
I’ll have to watch that interview a little later. I actually don’t like Jada or Kelly Osborne so this will be hard So she’s starting to paint herself as the victim of Wlad and the family now? Not totally shocked, it’s what celebs and wannabe celebs do now. When you’ve fucked up you come out with a story of trauma and blame others for it. Seems to work I will say, that most of us here have said before that Wlad has controlling ways. I’m not going to paint him as a saint, but I’m not ready to paint him as the bad guy in this either. What the hell was he and the family supposed to do when she’s drunk and high all the time and doesn’t want to take care of her own child? He was smart to make it legal. She was dumb to sign FULL custody over to him. There is little chance she will get it back unless he wants to cooperate with her and give it to her in the future. He’s got a very good reputation, especially over in Europe and his home country. She’s an admitted substance abuser who has woman beaters around and fights in the streets 😂A judge won’t be swayed by social media support. I wonder where the papers were signed? Bonus points to him if he had it done in Europe. Messy He’s forever a fool for getting involved with a woman like this and having a baby. It makes you look at him sideways I’ve always wondered why Wladimir was into Hayden, other than her good looks. Hayden was 20 and Wlad was 33 when they started dating. That is a massive age difference when one of the partners is that young, barely out of their teens. I think if Hayden was like, 30 and Wlad was 43 and they had just started dating, then that’s not a very big deal. Most 33 year olds are worlds apart from 20 year olds, they’re in very different phases in life. Makes me wonder if women his age wouldn’t let him boss him around and that’s why he went with a woman so young.. Wlad also has a PHd, so he is super intelligent and educated. A big Ukrainian fighter and very respected in his home country, and Hayden, to my knowledge, has no college degree at all and seemed to have drug issues even back then. Then they break up, Hayden then dates Scotty McKnight who was more age appropriate for her, then her and Scotty split and all of a sudden, she’s back with Wladimir. Then her and Wladimir split for good and Hayden seemed to go into a regression in life by partying, drinking with her new bf Brian..it was odd. Like an early midlife crisis
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Post by baconisgood on Sept 30, 2022 7:32:58 GMT
I watched the whole interview.
I don’t know what to believe because she’s told a few contradictory stories about this topic now
It’s been included in every story from the last few years that they broke up in 2018 (including in this one) and Kaya went to Ukraine. WE knew that they broke up earlier & Kaya was in Europe longer because we pay attention, but here she is saying Kaya was ALMOST THREE when Wlad decided not to give her back one day and had paperwork drawn up to give him full custody. Kaya is almost 8 right now. Her bday is December. That’s five years ago this happened. That would be 2017. I’m finding it hard to believe they were still in a relationship after that went down, so what’s she doing with the timeline?
She’s been saying this whole time SHE made the decision to let her daughter go live with her dad and it’s been used as …isn’t she brave, isn’t she selfless to recognize she wasn’t in a good place and to put her daughter’s well being first. She was saying this shit and that was the narrative even just a few months ago, NOW it’s they are big and powerful and they strong armed me into it. She’s basically claiming they stole her child from her and are preventing her from coming to stay with her.
She’s also says Wlad is a great father and has been saying this over and over for years..then a few seconds later alluding to them emotionally neglecting Kaya and turning her into someone who will be fucked up in the future because she’s not allowed to spend more time with her mom. She’s basically accusing him and his family of Parental Alienation and abuse.
If you read the comments on the video, a lot of people are now thinking Wlad and his family are abusive gangsters who stole this poor woman’s child away from her and are neglecting her too. They’re saying she’s obviously scared of them.
******* It really bothers me that there was nothing said of the physically and emotionally abusive man she was dating and living with in these years after the breakup. That’s a major piece of the puzzle being left out. Of course Wlad and family won’t allow Kaya to go stay with her and a man who admits to kicking her ass on the regular, even if they really are guilty of all the other stuff. It’s been left out that she still had that abusive man in her life until very recently. She still might. Her sobriety is new also. She’s making it sound like she has been good for a while now and they’re preventing the child from coming to stay with her just because they’re assholes and they can.
What has changed in the last few weeks to where she’s now throwing him/them under the bus like this?
One of two things are going on here 1 - She’s telling the truth here and they’re assholes who wield their power and she’s scared of them. 2 - She’s changed it up a bit to throw them under the bus for more sympathy because the other version still wasn’t quite getting her the sympathy she wanted for the career comeback. Maybe trying to gain public support to muddy the waters a bit so they’ll give in a little.
If #1 is true and she’s scared of them, why does she feel a little safer to start letting people know how they really are NOW?
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Post by baconisgood on Sept 30, 2022 7:38:54 GMT
I would also like to add that the makeup artists and lighting directors on that Red Table Talk show need Emmy nominations. Everyone looks fantastic, ageless and glowing lol
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Post by simona on Sept 30, 2022 13:30:45 GMT
Weird that she relied on the he’s an athlete thing instead of he grew up in the Soviet Union of nothingness so he relies on mindset. Id also like someone to point out he was in Fl most of the pandemic. She was with Brian. It’s clear she’s desperate for something but I don’t think it’s her daughter otherwise she’d be using legal angles instead of public ones. It makes me think of the messy gossip girl woman.
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